soldier
subsidiary
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I’m sorry but I need more words this isn’t helpful at all, also only one of those three words has the /j/ sound.
Hi Lola, my lists were created from an early 2000s copy of the Macquarie Dictionary in which I checked all the phonetic transcriptions, and these three words all did include /j/ as in ‘jam’, and there were no other words with this phoneme-grapheme correspondence. I pronounce all three with a /j/, which I think is typical of a Broad dialect (I went to a rural high school), but probably none of them contain /j/ in Cultivated, and maybe this is shifting in General. I’ve just looked these words up in my 2009 Australian Concise Oxford dictionary, and it’s transcription agrees with you about ‘incendiary’, but the word ‘subsidiary’ does still have a /j/. Weirdly, there is no phonetic transcription for ‘soldier’ but ‘soldiery’ is transcribed with a /j/ (I don’t know how to type the actual phonetic script into this response, sorry). So I’ll move ‘incendiary’ over to the ‘i as in onion’ page, thanks for pointing this out. All the best, Alison
Please let us all know where your more helpful resource is when you find it Lola. One with every single English word, with every pronunciation of all of them in all of the 200+ English dialects, and thousands of accents, all in one place, for free, would be nice. Thanks!
Yup, Ms. Lola (just respect, no olds or youngs) is correct. I know you wrote this big chunk of writing, but srry, need more!!
Thxx | Moira2Spelfabet | u doin good job!
I went through the whole dictionary and couldn’t find any others, sorry. If there are others, they’re quite obscure words. All the best, Alison
What do you mean by ‘obscure’?
Obscure Definition:
not discovered or known about; uncertain.
Just FYI, an English dictionary has most of all the words in the language, right? I don’t really get why in the whole language there is only two words in the entire universe of English, but it’s life. Sorry for disturbing you, but I really need this for an English Interview at my job. Thanks Alison for trying your best, and I know you worked hard on this.
Question: Do you look at the same dictionary whenever you will post an article?
Tip: If yes, then try other English dictionaries.
Tip: If no, then…idkwysd (I don’t know what you should do)
(And when you are checking other dictionaries, focus on where you look. Also try to pronounce, thanks again.)
Thxx, Moira
Hi other readers,
Linguist here.
⟨di⟩ as /ʤ/, the sound of the letter J, is exceptionally rare in English because it is not a standard digraph (letter pair that produces a new sound).
The reason that ⟨di⟩ produces the /ʤ/ sound in these words is because of a physical effect in the mouth called “assimilation”. It only occurs with the letter i when the next letter is a vowel *sound*. This is because the ⟨i⟩ becomes a /j/, the same sound as ⟨y⟩ in “yes”.
Hence, “die” is not a contender because the vowel letter E does not make a vowel *sound* in this position.
It is not *supposed* to sound like J /ʤ/, it just *does*, by accident.
As noted by website author Alison in another comment, “subsidiary” features the assimilation while “incendiary” does not. This is peculiar, and may demonstrate that the assimilation is incomplete in English, although I would suppose that it might actually because the ⟨ary⟩ in “incendiary” is still closer to /ɛɹɪj/ than /ɹɪj/ and that, as it’s a less-commonly used word, the ⟨dia⟩ retains its /djə/ pronunciation.
Regardless of how and why, the point remains:
There are extremely few instances of ⟨di⟩ as in “soldier” in English.
The tone of your comments is somewhat rude and ungrateful.
If you’re going to demand that someone trawl through another dictionary, for you, for free, how about you get off your lazy a** and go study the basic linguistics & phonology for yourself and find the answers for yourself. Maybe you can help the rest of us for free, too.
Thank you Alison for this website! It is the only resource I’ve found online like this! I love it!
Best wishes,
Farran