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Does the” i ” have a long e sound in these words?
Is that because of the etymology of these words?
Is there a rule when to sound the i with long e sound?
Thx in advance
In my accent, yes, the sound is a “long” ee. I understand that this is because they are mostly loan words that came into English from other languages after the Great Vowel Shift, and retained their pronunciation and spelling. You can find out a lot about vowel spellings in the last few episodes of the History Of English podcast: here’s the first episode with this focus: https://historyofenglishpodcast.com/2020/09/24/episode-141-the-great-vowel-shift-part-1
Thx a lot for this amazing podcast ❤️ of the great vowel shift
It’s making me think of how to spell 1 of the characters from the sequel of Disney’s “The Lion King”; “The Lion King Ⅱ: Simba’s Pride”. And that character I’m talking about is Vitani.
Dear Jeana, yes, lots of names contain this sound-spelling correspondence, Olivia, Sophia, Amelia, Mia, Aria, Liam, Julian, Sebastian…
What about mosquito?
Ah good thinking. I’ve added it. Thanks, Alison
I don’t think apricot has the long /ee/ sound I think it has the short /i/ sound.
I don’t think apricot has long /ee/ sound i think it has the short /i/ sound.
Hi Vihaan, the Macquarie Dictionary says “/ˈeɪprikɒt/ (say ‘aypreekot)” so maybe you don’t have an Aussie accent and that’s why you say it with ‘short’ /i/. Alison
In American English, we say apricot with the schwa sound ˈa-prə-ˌkät
Also, what about chili?
Yes, we also sometimes say the ‘i’ in ‘apricot’ as a schwa, the Macquarie Dictionary says the pronunciation is /ˈeɪprikɒt/ (say ‘aypreekot), or /-prə-/ (say -pruh-). Chili could be added to this list, but my dictionary says it’s spelt ‘chilli’ in the US, is that wrong? I’ll add it now. Thanks, Alison
Thank you, that is very interesting.
My name has an I as an ee sound
Great, lots of names do, but if they aren’t in the Macquarie dictionary I don’t usually put them on these lists.
What about pizza?
Good point, but when I was making these lists I usually didn’t put much-harder words on easier lists. But I’ll add it in. Thanks, Alison
Love this site!! I understand the history of such sound shifts but find it easier to teach children when there is a “rule”. Do you know of a rule for long ee spelt i? eg police?
Thank you
I work with a lot of literal kids on the Autism spectrum so talk about patterns or guidelines rather than rules, because they get upset when a rule doesn’t really work as a rule. Words with /ee/ spelt with a letter ‘i’ are often Latin in origin, but that doesn’t really help kids spell them, it just explains why they have an unexpected spelling. ‘Police’ is a bit of an outlier, the only other word I can think of like it is ‘caprice’, usually words which end like this are pronounced either like ‘advice’ or like ‘solstice’ with an unstressed second syllable. Maybe this is a good opportunity to practise Set for Variability using words from here? https://www.morewords.com/ends-with-by-length/ice